Lung diseases and their emotional background

Lung diseases and respiratory problems can improve and heal when we address their emotional background!
Listen to doctors and therapists sharing amazing case experiences, as well as the challenges in prevention and treatment of these afflictions, on the 8. Intl META-Health Conference in Mumbai:


  • Pulmonary fibrosis
  • Lung cancer
  • Lung Tuberculosis

with Dr Abhas Desai, Rob van Overbruggen, Jasmina Kovacev, Walter Reiner and Dr Kwesi Anan Odum.

Summary transcript:

Dr Abhas Desai: The way that I understand lungs is, the most essential thing to survive in this life is breath. And the most essential element that sustains the human soul is love. So whenever there is a perception in a person that there is a lack of love in his life he or she develops a breathing problem. I have seen it many times. Probably the worst case I ever saw with a pulmonary problem, the person was predicted she would not survive more than 10-15 days, and that was 28 years ago and she’s still there. She was diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis – the person starts to have difficulty breathing, and slowly, slowly there is a calcification between the bronchioles, it is like lung structures are being cemented. The expanding capacity of the lungs becomes less.

This is a case of a girl. She lost her mother when she was 8 or 10 years old. Then the father remarried. The problem was, that even though the stepmother was very loving and caring, she could never accept her as her mother. And she was constantly missing mother’s love, “no love in my life”, the only dream she had was once she got married, there would be one person who will be loving me only. And the person who married her was one of my friends.

When he went to see her, he came to know that her mother had died years before. He saw the girl, he liked her and said yes to her, and the worst thing happened was that after the marriage he told her he that he would never had said no, out of sympathy. That brought down all the expectations that she had for her love in life.
She came down with severe breathing problems, was admitted into hospital in Mumbai, for 40 days. There she was diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis. The capacity of her lungs was only 15%. So they medicated her in a very heavy dose, and advised my friend to take her home. After one, two months she was fine, but then her symptoms got worse again and he took her back to the hospital. They saw her and told him that she was bound to die in 15 days, so it was better to take her home.

Then they came to my clinic and we started treatment. She became pregnant twice – once she missed the child, the next time she delivered a boy, who is now 22 years old and getting married next year. She is still healthy and taking care of all her domestic and social responsibilities, and the best part I really love in this case is, in all these years she has used an air inhaler only thrice (when I was not there and the physician gave it to her). Without any inhalator, nor steroids, antibiotics, or bronchiodilator she survived 28 years and she’s rather healthier than me!

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: So what did you identify as the emotion and the mindset behind her fibrosis?

Dr Abhas Desai: There is a medicine in homeopathy which has an essence of “I’m an orphan, there is no-one who loves me”. I just let her experiment with that medicine – magnesium-carbonate – but I feel that carb doesn’t come into this mass of sensitivity and creativity, because it’s rather a sluggish thing. Sulphur is more profoundly reacting, so I chose to gave her magnesium-sulphur and that brought her out. She still takes the medicine once in a while for some necessity but she is surviving, walking, climbing the stairs of my clinic without stopping in between.

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: Has her lung capacity also recovered?

Dr Abhas Desai: One month before, she had a CT-scan and there was no lung fibrosis visible anymore.

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: Conventional medicine says that that’s not possible.

Dr Abhas Desai: Conventional medicine said that she would have died within 15 days. There was one funny incident: my friend took her to a physician in Mumbai hospital at that time 20 years ago, for the reports. The doctor just saw the CT-scan and asked “Where is the patient? Why does she not have an oxygen mask on her face?” “She doesn’t need it!” He didn’t believe that a patient with this lung capacity can sit in front of him with no oxygen mask.

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: I repeat myself again: homeopathy combined with META-Health is going to be the future of medicine!

Rob van Overbruggen: I’ve got 2 cases to share.
You know those swimming-pools with a low and a high diving-board? When I went to swimming classes, in one class we had to climb up to the high board and just to jump off into the water. I was a little scared, walking to the edge of the diving-board, and I was getting shakier the closer I got – and I don’t know how it happened, but I tripped over my own toe and fell down, like this (slams with his flat hand on th floor, then gasps for air while struggling with his arms) and came to the side of the swimming-pool. And since then I always have that little cough. And even though I have jumped from higher heights since then in a natural pool, as soon as there was a diving-board I was “oh my…”
So in this situation where I fell down, I had this thought “oh God, I cannot breathe! I’m going to die!” … but this personal story ended well.

However, another case in the same tissue layer: My next-door neighbour went to the hospital for a routine check-up and it showed some spots on her lungs. Further tests concluded it was lung cancer. She went for surgery, and went to check-up 2 months later, when she was told “we made a mistake, everything is ok”. However, 3 months later she went for another check-up, and they found spots, and “no we did not make a mistake this time, this is serious.” And that’s the end of her story. And what happened here is in the first instant she was so terrified that that actually was the shock that stuck in her system, and from that moment on she was a “cancer patient” and she couldn’t shake off the fear, so the fear starts rotting inside.

Jasmina Kovacev: In any serious diagnois there is a trap, a potential that it goes like this, depending how people perceive what they are being told. We all have different sensitivities that could start biological programs. So for me, the first thing I establish with cancer patients is how they experienced the diagnosis. We know that metastasis is a new process as result of what they’ve been told.

So this is what I have to look at even before I start looking behind their primary problem. Now what’s important there is if there is a fear of dying. Usually when I start on that, people think I’m preparing them to die! So I have to explain myself a number of times how important it is that they have their peace and it’s not meaning that they are giving up!

I’ve seen many cases that had started a cancer process and came out of it safely. I had one case where several cancer processes had been worked on and sorted out. Then after about 3 years, some marks on the lungs were discovered. They said it was not dangerous for the time being, but that she had to be careful because those marks could potentially be very dangerous.
And actually that’s when she got it again, she lost the faith in herself and in her life. At that time we didn’t work together because I was abroad, but that’s what I heard and it was the end of the story. It’s really sad because she was already out of it, she had overcome a pancreas cancer and a lung cancer! But this re-triggering happens very often when people were diagnosed with cancer.

Rob van Overbruggen: There’s a lot of research out there about people who spontaneously recovered from cancer. One of the ingredients that you see often is that they are in peace with dying. Like you said, you’re not preparing them for it, but if it should happen they are at peace with it. This means that the fear of dying is probably one of the final fears they have, and when you can resolve that, the entire body can start recuperating.

Walter Reiner: A cancer diagnosis is “an order to die”, and therefore the patient is very stressed. So the first thing I have to do is to release stress, and I tell all my clients that the term “tumour” only means “swelling”.
“Cancer” is a bad, malicious word for this, so in my mind there is no cancer anymore. You have asked me why I don’t write a book with experiences and case stories about healing from cancer, but I will not write about a term that I eliminated from my mind. I’ll show you an exercise I do with my clients: (gets up and throws a ball at Rob who catches it)
You see, a doctor is in a high position, and when he throws you a diagnosis, you catch it.

And there are people who want to keep their diagnosis and don’t like it if I’d tell them it doesn’t exist. Like him, see, I throw it once more and he catches it again! It’s crazy! I train my clients to not accept everything they are thrown.

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: Thank you very much Walter, you reminded us of the power of language!
And it’s interesting how the western world say that people in Africa are doing voodoo. The doctors in white in the western world are the biggest voodoo masters. The diagnosis from the authority, the “God in white”, can kill if the client takes it to heart. Walter just demonstrated how he is not accepting this language anymore, and how he creates a more positive approach.

Rob van Overbruggen: Even if you look at it from a purely biological viewpoint, every medic knows that the body is not static. It’s dynamic, right? It changes from minute to minute. What they do with a diagnosis is that they take a split second image of the body in the current state – with a camera, biopsy, CT or whatever. From that moment they start to predict the future, whch is not possible in a dynamic state because it fluctuates!

Walter Reiner: The second thing I want to share: I live close to Heilbronn. In World War 2, the town was vastly destroyed by English bombs. People died in the explosions directly or because of lack of oxygen. What kind of symptoms do you expect, when the air and the streets are cleaned again, the houses are being rebuilt, people get better food again? – Yes, tuberculosis!
Tuberculosis comes in the second phase (editor’s note: the regeneration phase, when the original conflict is resolved).

In my experience, there are situations when bigger regions of the lungs are affected, or when there are just one or two local foci. And the biological difference is, that either have this conflict yourself – then you need all that power to resolve it and survive – or you experience it on behalf of another – then it’s the smaller, mirrored image.

From the audience: When the fear is within ourselves, we are more fearful and we will not share it, we don’t want the others to also get it, so it grows bigger and bigger.

Walter Reiner: Yes, and the biological reason is, like if I were a mouse and he were a cat, there is just very little time for me to flee to safety – I need all power right now to not be eaten, so a maximun function of the lungs! These programs are meant for a short time only. But with a cancer diagnosis, I don’t find a hole to run to, not in weeks or months. No safety! And the cells are growing/multiplying.
Only if I’d have a friend to tell me “oh that’s only some oedema in your lungs, and you have cold hands, are you stresed? I’ll release it with you!” – then I can calm down.
But if you are reacting for the sake of another person, not all function plus is needed in your own lungs.

Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: Thank you, that was a wonderful illustration. And that’s what you also see with a lot of refugees that are walking from India or Pakistan to Europe: on their journey they manage all their stress, but when they arrive in the Western World, what disease do they get? Tuberculosis! The same as after WW2, when you come into safety and regeneration (editor’s note: after the fear of death), and when the microbes are present, then tuberculosis sets in. That explains it!

Read more about the respiratory system in the META-Wiki in MHI’s members’ portal, and learn to decode your physical and psychological symptoms!

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